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Bunker Hill Kindercare

A licensed child care center in Houston, Texas 77024

937 Bunker Hill Rd, Houston, Texas 77024. (713) 464-1625.

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The short answer

Record last released by Texas HHSC on Nov 5, 2026.

The last 24 months 35 deficiencies in 8 months of the last 36. Last cited Sep 2026. Most serious: High. Every month

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What these words mean5
Inspection (survey)
A visit by state inspectors, often unannounced, who check a place against the rules it must meet. For nursing homes and other places Medicare pays, CMS calls these visits surveys: a standard survey of a nursing home comes at least every 15 months, and a complaint survey whenever a complaint calls for one. Source: CMS; 42 CFR 488.308.
Deficiency, citation, violation
What inspectors write up when a place didn’t meet a rule: the rule, what they saw, and when. CMS calls it a deficiency; states may say citation or violation. It is the inspectors’ finding, not a court’s, and the place is usually asked for a plan to correct it. Source: CMS, statement of deficiencies (Form CMS-2567); each state’s licensing agency.
Texas’s risk levels
Texas gives each child care deficiency a risk level, by how likely it is to harm a child: Low, Medium Low, Medium, Medium High or High. High is its most serious. Source: Texas Health and Human Services Commission, Child Care Regulation.
Licence status
Whether the state’s licence lets the place operate now, in the state’s own words: licensed, on probation (allowed to keep operating on conditions, after problems), provisional, pending or expired. Source: Each state’s licensing agency.
Capacity
The most people the licence or certification lets the place care for at once: residents, children, beds or apartments, as the state counts them. It isn’t how many are there now. Source: Each state’s licensing agency.

What did inspectors find?

35 deficiencies cited in the last three years

The middle of the 2,139 child care providers in Harris County had 4.

20 inspections on record. The latest, on Oct 8, 2026: no violation found.

Rated High by Texas: Care Requirements for Toddlers - Free from Choking Objects That May Cause Choking in Infants or Toddlers, at the inspection on Sep 23, 2026

Rated High by Texas: Responsibilities of Caregivers - Know number of children responsible for, at the inspection on Sep 11, 2026

Rated High by Texas: Prohibited Punishments - No Harsh, Cruel or Unusual, at the inspection on Sep 11, 2026

6 more rated High; all are listed below.

Source:

Texas HHSC, deficiencies (non-compliance data) and inspections and investigations. Released Nov 5, 2026. Updated daily.

When those deficiencies happened

35 deficiencies in 8 months of the last 36. Last cited Sep 2026. Most serious: High. The last 3 years, to Nov 5, 2026.

35 deficiencies by month over the last 3 years. Each cell is one month.
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No visit on record Visited, nothing cited A stronger orange is more serious, on its source’s own levels, read onto four bands: from the least serious it publishes to the most
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Each deficiency, in Texas’s words

Grouped by visit, newest first, with the risk level Texas gave it, from Low to High.

Source:

Texas HHSC, deficiencies (non-compliance data). Released Nov 5, 2026. Updated daily.

Sep 23, 2026: inspection3 deficiencies
  • Care Requirements for Toddlers - Free from Choking Objects That May Cause Choking in Infants or Toddlers

    “A child was observed sleeping with a pacifier that had a clip attached in their mouth during nap time.”

    Rule 746.2501(5). High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 23, 2026. Correction verified: Oct 7, 2026.

  • Employee Handwashing After Diapering a Child

    “CCR observed a employee not their hands after changing a diaper.”

    Rule 746.3415(4). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 23, 2026. Correction verified: Oct 7, 2026.

  • Diapering Procedures - Sanitizing Diaper Changing Area

    “CCR observed a caregiver in the infant room not sanitize the changing table in between changing diapers.”

    Rule 746.3505(e). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 23, 2026. Correction verified: Oct 7, 2026.

Sep 11, 2026: inspection2 deficiencies
  • Responsibilities of Caregivers - Know number of children responsible for

    “Caregivers in 2 out of 4 rooms observed provided the incorrect number of children in their care.”

    Rule 746.1205(a)(2). High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 11, 2026. Correction verified: Sep 23, 2026.

  • Prohibited Punishments - No Harsh, Cruel or Unusual

    “A caregiver was observed pulling a child by their arm and kicking the nap cot while the child was on it.”

    Rule 746.2805. High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 11, 2026. Correction verified: Sep 23, 2026.

Aug 20, 2026: inspection1 deficiency
  • Arrangement of Napping Equipment -Provides Sufficient Walking and Work Space

    “Insufficient walking space was observed in the infant and toddler groups. The ends of some cots were observed to be touching each other. NOTE: Corrected at inspection, the cots were rearrged to provide enough walking space”

    Rule 746.2909(3). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Corrected during the inspection. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Aug 20, 2026.

Aug 6, 2026: inspection7 deficiencies
  • Supervision ensures each child?s safety, well-being, including physical proximity and auditory or visual awareness of each child?s on going activity

    “During nap time, children were observed sleeping behind a shelving unit. The shelving unit obstructed the caregiver’s view, preventing the caregiver from maintaining visual supervision of the children.”

    Rule 746.1205(a)(4). High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Aug 6, 2026. Correction verified: Aug 20, 2026.

  • Arrangement of Napping Equipment -Provides Sufficient Walking and Work Space

    “There was no sufficient walk and work space between cots in the Infant B classroom.”

    Rule 746.2909(3). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Aug 6, 2026. Correction verified: Aug 20, 2026.

  • Food Allergy Emergency Plan Signed by Parents and Health Care Professional

    “A signature is needed on the food allergy emergency plan for one child enrolled.”

    Rule 746.3819. Medium High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Aug 10, 2026. Correction verified: Aug 7, 2026.

  • Safety Requirements for Cribs - Label for Each Infant

    “I observed unlabeled cribs used for children enrolled.”

    Rule 746.2409(a)(10). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Aug 6, 2026. Correction verified: Aug 20, 2026.

  • Written Feeding Instructions - Review and Update Every 30 Days

    “Updated feeding instructions are needed for eight children.”

    Rule 746.2421(b). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Aug 10, 2026. Correction verified: Aug 10, 2026.

  • Daily Menus - Record Comparable Substitutions

    “The PM snack menu showed children would be served fresh apples and sun butter. During today’s inspection children were served oranges and crackers as well as oranges and pancakes for PM snack.”

    Rule 746.3313(1). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Aug 6, 2026. Correction verified: Aug 20, 2026.

  • Cots, Beds, Mats Labeled With Child’s Name

    “The operation utilizes a numbered cot/chart system for nap. During today’s inspection I observed children asleep on numbered cots however the cot did not match the posted chart. A number/child assignment map was not available in the Pre-K and Fours classroom.”

    Rule 746.4503(b). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Aug 6, 2026. Correction verified: Aug 20, 2026.

Aug 4, 2026: report to the state1 deficiency
  • Provide care consistent with child’s habits, interests, strengths, special needs, including any special supervision needs

    “During the investigation, it was determined that the operation failed to maintain adequate supervision of a child.”

    Rule 746.1203(4). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Aug 31, 2026. Correction verified: Sep 11, 2026.

Feb 26, 2026: inspection3 deficiencies
  • Child/ Caregiver Ratio - 13 or More Children

    “Upon entering an infant classroom, one caregiver was observed with ten children ages 14-19 months old. The specified age group for the class was 12-17 months which allows one caregiver to supervise a maximum of 5 children. The caregiver was over ratio by 5 children. A caregiver in another classroom was observed with 9 children ages 13-20 months old. The specified age group for the class was 12-17 months which allows one caregiver to supervise a maximum of 5 children. The caregiver was over ratio by 4 children.”

    Rule 746.1601. Medium High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Feb 26, 2026. Correction verified: Mar 23, 2026.

  • Employee Handwashing After Diapering a Child

    “A caregiver did not wash their hands after diapering a child. The caregiver was beginning to diaper another child. Note: This was corrected during inspection. The caregiver washed their hands before diapering the next child.”

    Rule 746.3415(4). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Corrected during the inspection. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Feb 26, 2026.

  • Children Handwashing After Toileting or Diapering

    “A child did not wash their hands after having their diaper changed. Note: This was corrected during inspection. The child washed their hands before returning to play.”

    Rule 746.3417(3). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Corrected during the inspection. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Feb 26, 2026.

Sep 2, 2025: inspection4 deficiencies
  • Annual Fire Inspection - Before Initial Permit Issued and Every 12 Months

    “The last fire inspection was completed 08/26/2024.”

    Rule 746.5101(a). High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Nov 11, 2025. Correction verified: Nov 25, 2025.

  • Education Outside of U.S.

    “Equivalency documentation is needed for three caregivers.”

    Rule 746.1111. Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Nov 6, 2025. Correction verified: Nov 14, 2025.

  • Medication No Longer Used

    “During today’s inspection I observed stored medications that were expired. Note: This was corrected during inspection.”

    Rule 746.3809. Medium, by Texas’s label. Corrected during the inspection. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 2, 2025.

  • Children’s Records - Health Statement

    “Health statements are needed for two children enrolled.”

    Rule 746.603(a)(3). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 16, 2025. Correction verified: Sep 3, 2025.

Sep 9, 2024: inspection6 deficiencies
  • AP Background check results - Must receive notification prior to allowing subject to be present at your operation

    “A caregiver was observed in the Toddler classroom with direct access to children. The caregivers background check has been inactive and the operation has not received an eligibility notification from CBCU stating the caregiver can be present. Note: The caregiver left the operation during the inspection.”

    Rule 745.641. High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 9, 2024. Correction verified: Sep 16, 2024.

  • Pre-service Training for Caregivers of Children Under 24 Months

    “4 caregivers files evaluated did not contain documenation showing training was completed in Early Childhood Brain Development.”

    Rule 746.1305(b). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 13, 2024. Correction verified: Sep 13, 2024.

  • Child/ Caregiver Ratio - 13 or More Children

    “A caregiver was obsserved with 8 children in the Toddler C classroom. The child to caregiver ratio should’ve been 5:1. The caregiver was over in ratio by 3 children.”

    Rule 746.1601. Medium High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 9, 2024. Correction verified: Sep 24, 2024.

  • Children’s Records - Health Statement

    “1 out of 4 children’s files evaluated did not contain a completed health statement.”

    Rule 746.603(a)(3). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 13, 2024. Correction verified: Sep 13, 2024.

  • Required Records Maintained and Made Available - Safety Documentation for Emergency Drills, Fire Extinguishers, & Smoke Detectors

    “Documentation showing the smoke and carbon monoxide detectors were tested in June and July of 2024.”

    Rule 746.801(10). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 13, 2024. Correction verified: Sep 13, 2024.

  • Documentation PEDIATRIAC CPR-1st aid original certificate on file at center or copy available if licensing requests

    “2 out of 4 staff files evaluated did not contain documentaiton of CPR and First Aid training.”

    Rule 746.1329(c)(2). Low, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 13, 2024. Correction verified: Sep 13, 2024.

Jul 1, 2024: inspection4 deficiencies
  • Safety - Bodies of Water Inaccessible to Children

    “A yellow bucket of dirty mop water was observed in the toddler room during the inspection.”

    Rule 746.3701(9). High, by Texas’s label. Corrected during the inspection. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Jul 1, 2024.

  • Arrangement of Napping Equipment -Provides Sufficient Walking and Work Space

    “The nap cots children were resting did not provide sufficient walking space during the inspection. Note: The operation rearranged the cots during the inspection to allow for sufficient walking space.”

    Rule 746.2909(3). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Corrected during the inspection. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Jul 1, 2024.

  • Annual Sanitation Inspection

    “The annual sanitation inspection has not been conducted since May 9th, 2023.”

    Rule 746.3401(a). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Jul 15, 2024. Correction verified: Jul 2, 2024.

  • Using, Storing and Disposing of Hazardous Materials

    “An aerosol spray can of Goo Off Graffiti was used in a classroom causing a strong chemical odor in a room where children are present.”

    Rule 746.3407(13). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Jul 2, 2024. Correction verified: Jul 1, 2024.

May 7, 2024: inspection3 deficiencies
  • AP Background check results - Must receive notification prior to allowing subject to be present at your operation

    “A caregiver was observed in a classroom with direct access to children. There is no active background check for the caregiver and the operation has not received an eligibility notification from CBCU. Note: The caregiver left the operation during the inspection.”

    Rule 745.641. High, by Texas’s label. Corrected during the inspection. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: May 7, 2024.

  • Safety - Televisions Anchored to Prevent Tip Over

    “A TV was observed on top of a shelf leaning on the wall and was not mounted or anchored. Note: This was corrected at the inspection when the caregiver removed the TV from the room.”

    Rule 746.3701(10). Medium High, by Texas’s label. Corrected during the inspection. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: May 7, 2024.

  • Provide Access to Children’s Records - Licensing

    “The operation did not provide CCR access to an incident report upon request.”

    Rule 746.601(c). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: May 10, 2024. Correction verified: Jun 10, 2024.

Apr 24, 2024: report to the state1 deficiency
  • Responsibilities of Employees and Caregivers -Demonstrate Competency, Good Judgment, Self-control

    “A caregiver did not practice good judgment when sending a child home with the incorrect bottle of milk.”

    Rule 746.1201(1). High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Jun 21, 2024. Correction verified: Jul 1, 2024.

13 deficiencies older than three years
Sep 14, 2023: inspection5 deficiencies
  • First Aid Kit Incomplete - Tweezers

    “The first aid kit evaluated during the inspection did not contain a pair of tweezers.”

    Rule 746.4003(a)(8). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 28, 2023. Correction verified: Oct 13, 2023.

  • Health Statement on File within 1 Week of Admission

    “2 out of 10 children’s files evaluated did not contain a health statement.”

    Rule 746.611(b). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 28, 2023. Correction verified: Sep 15, 2023.

  • Required Personnel Records- Meets Requirements

    “1 out of 10 staff files evaluated did not contain a high school diploma.”

    Rule 746.901(2). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 28, 2023. Correction verified: Sep 15, 2023.

  • Documentation of Training Requirements - Original Training Certification Card or Letter in each Employee’s personnel record

    “Training certificates were not available for review upon request for 10 staff files evaluated.”

    Rule 746.1329(a). Medium Low, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 25, 2023. Correction verified: Sep 19, 2023.

  • Required Personnel Records - Required Affidavit

    “1 out of 10 staff files evaulated did not contain a notarized affidavit for employment.”

    Rule 746.901(4). Medium Low, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Sep 28, 2023. Correction verified: Sep 15, 2023.

Oct 24, 2022: inspection1 deficiency
  • Required Records Maintained and Made Available - Infant Feeding Instructions

    “There are seven infants that did not have an updated infant feeding instruction.”

    Rule 746.801(2). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Oct 26, 2022. Correction verified: Oct 25, 2022.

Sep 30, 2022: inspection3 deficiencies
  • Cots, Beds, Mats Labeled With Child’s Name

    “Mats in the classrooms are labeled with numbers but there are no sleep charts to specify which mat belongs to which child.”

    Rule 746.4503(b). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Oct 5, 2022. Correction verified: Oct 24, 2022.

  • Storage for Individual Belongings

    “Cubbies in the Prek 4 classroom did not have labels to specify which cubbie belonged to each child. Children’s blankets were placed together in one large cubbie or storage bin.”

    Rule 746.4505. Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Oct 5, 2022. Correction verified: Oct 24, 2022.

  • Required Records Maintained and Made Available - Infant Feeding Instructions

    “There are four infants that did not have an updated infant feeding instruction. They were last signed in July and August 2022.”

    Rule 746.801(2). Medium, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Oct 5, 2022. Correction verified: Oct 24, 2022.

Apr 11, 2022: inspection1 deficiency
  • AP Background check results - Must receive notification prior to allowing subject to be present at your operation

    “I observe caregiver present that was missing current background check.”

    Rule 745.641. High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Apr 12, 2022. Correction verified: Apr 12, 2022.

Jan 25, 2022: report to the state1 deficiency
  • Responsibilities of Caregivers- Supervision of Children

    “Based on the information obtained during investigation, it was determined staff did not supervise children when a child was left unsupervised in the classroom.”

    Rule 746.1203(4). High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Mar 22, 2022. Correction verified: Apr 4, 2022.

Dec 27, 2021: report to the state2 deficiencies
  • Responsibilities of Caregivers- Supervision of Children

    “Based on the information obtained, it was determined caregiver left children unsupervised in the toddler room.”

    Rule 746.1203(4). High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Jan 25, 2022. Correction verified: Feb 8, 2022.

  • Child/ Caregiver Ratio - 13 or More Children

    “Based on the information obtained, it was determined child-staff ratios not met in the toddler room.”

    Rule 746.1601. Medium High, by Texas’s label. Correction date, as Texas HHSC recorded it: Jan 25, 2022. Correction verified: Feb 8, 2022.

All 30 visits on record
Inspections, investigations and reports to the state
DateVisitWhat the record says
Oct 8, 2026InspectionNo violation found
Sep 23, 2026Inspection3 deficiencies cited
Sep 11, 2026Inspection2 deficiencies cited
Aug 20, 2026Inspection1 deficiency cited
Aug 6, 2026Inspection7 deficiencies cited
Aug 4, 2026Report to the state1 deficiency cited
Jun 23, 2026AssessmentNo violation found
Mar 23, 2026InspectionNo violation found
Feb 26, 2026Inspection3 deficiencies cited
Feb 24, 2026Report to the stateNo violation found
Sep 2, 2025Inspection4 deficiencies cited
Apr 22, 2025InspectionNo violation found
Apr 8, 2025Report to the stateNo violation found
Sep 26, 2024InspectionNo violation found
Sep 9, 2024Inspection6 deficiencies cited
Jul 1, 2024Inspection4 deficiencies cited
May 7, 2024Inspection3 deficiencies cited
Apr 24, 2024Report to the state1 deficiency cited
Sep 29, 2023Report to the stateNo violation found
Sep 14, 2023Inspection5 deficiencies cited
Jun 16, 2023Report to the stateNo violation found
Oct 24, 2022Inspection1 deficiency cited
Sep 30, 2022Inspection3 deficiencies cited
Sep 19, 2022Report to the stateNo violation found
Apr 11, 2022Inspection1 deficiency cited
Mar 1, 2022InspectionNo violation found
Feb 8, 2022InspectionNo violation found
Jan 25, 2022Report to the state1 deficiency cited
Dec 30, 2021InspectionNo violation found
Dec 27, 2021Report to the state2 deficiencies cited

Is it licensed?

  • Licensed Center, permit issued Jan 23, 2006.
  • Accepts state child care subsidies.
  • Licensed for ages: Infant, Toddler, Pre-Kindergarten.
  • Capacity: 122 children.
Source:

Texas HHSC, child care operations. Released Nov 5, 2026. Updated daily.

Has Texas acted against it?

  • No corrective or adverse action by Texas on record.
  • 9 reports to the state on record; Texas doesn’t publish whether they were .
Source:

Texas HHSC, child care operations and inspections and investigations. Released Nov 5, 2026. Updated daily.

Who does the caring?

  • Texas doesn’t publish staffing levels for individual providers. State rules set staff-to-child ratios by age.

Who owns it?

  • Texas’s open data doesn’t list owners.

How is it rated?

  • Texas Rising Star: 3-Star (the middle of three levels).
Source:

Texas Workforce Commission, subsidy providers and Texas Rising Star. Released Nov 5, 2026. Updated daily.

How does it compare nearby?

  • Among 2139 child care providers in Harris County, the middle value for deficiencies cited in the last three years was 4; this one had 35.
Source:

Texas HHSC, deficiencies (non-compliance data). Released Nov 5, 2026. Updated daily.

What the record doesn’t say

  • Texas doesn’t publish whether a complaint was substantiated.
  • Texas rates some paperwork slips as High risk, so read what was actually cited.
  • Texas doesn’t publish staffing levels or owners for individual providers.

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